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{{Citation/core/sandbox
This page is for comparing the current Cite Book output with the sandbox version.  Editors are invited to add any examples of inconsistency below so they can be addressed, but please keep discussion on [[Template talk:Cite book]] where possible.
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==Some general examples to get started==
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  |Surname3 = {{{last3|{{{surname3|{{{author3|}}}}}}}}}
;Original:
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*{{cite book
  |Surname5 = {{{last5|{{{surname5|{{{author5|}}}}}}}}}
| author = Buckland, W.
  |Surname6 = {{{last6|{{{surname6|{{{author6|}}}}}}}}}
| year = 1841
  |Surname7 = {{{last7|{{{surname7|{{{author7|}}}}}}}}}
| title = Geology and Mineralogy Considered with Reference to Natural Theology
  |Surname8 = {{{last8|{{{surname8|{{{author8|}}}}}}}}}
| publisher = Lea & Blanchard
  |Surname9 = {{{last9|{{{surname9|{{{author9|}}}}}}}}}
}}
  |Given1 = {{{first1|{{{given1|{{{first|{{{given|}}}}}}}}}}}}
;Sandbox:
  |Given2 = {{{first2|{{{given2|}}}}}}
*{{cite book/sandbox
  |Given3 = {{{first3|{{{given3|}}}}}}
| author = Buckland, W.
  |Given4 = {{{first4|{{{given4|}}}}}}
| year = 1841
  |Given5 = {{{first5|{{{given5|}}}}}}
| title = Geology and Mineralogy Considered with Reference to Natural Theology
  |Given6 = {{{first6|{{{given6|}}}}}}
| publisher = Lea & Blanchard
  |Given7 = {{{first7|{{{given7|}}}}}}
}}
  |Given8 = {{{first8|{{{given8|}}}}}}
 
  |Given9 = {{{first9|{{{given9|}}}}}}
;Original:{{cite book
  |Authorlink1 = {{{author-link|{{{author1-link|{{{authorlink|{{{authorlink1|}}}}}}}}}}}}
| title=On the Origin of Species by Natural Selection
  |Authorlink2 = {{{author2-link|{{{authorlink2|}}}}}}
| author=Darwin, C
  |Authorlink3 = {{{author3-link|{{{authorlink3|}}}}}}
| authorlink=Charles Darwin
  |Authorlink4 = {{{author4-link|{{{authorlink4|}}}}}}
| year=2002
  |Authorlink5 = {{{author5-link|{{{authorlink5|}}}}}}
| origyear = First published 1859
  |Authorlink6 = {{{author6-link|{{{authorlink6|}}}}}}
| pages=315–316
  |Authorlink7 = {{{author7-link|{{{authorlink7|}}}}}}
| publisher=Murray, London, United Kingdom
  |Authorlink8 = {{{author8-link|{{{authorlink8|}}}}}}
| isbn=1602061440
  |Authorlink9 = {{{author9-link|{{{authorlink9|}}}}}}
| oclc=176630493
  |Year={{{year|{{    <!-- attempt to derive year from date, if possible -->
}}
            #if: {{{date|}}}
;Sandbox:{{cite book/sandbox
            |{{
| title=On the Origin of Species by Natural Selection
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| author=Darwin, C
                |{{#iferror:{{#time:Y|{{{publication-date|einval}}} }}||{{#time:Y|{{{publication-date|}}} }}}}
| authorlink=Charles Darwin
                |{{#time:Y|{{{date|}}} }}
| year=2002
              }}
| origyear = First published 1859
            |{{{publication-date|}}} <!-- last resort -->
| pages=315–316
          }}
| publisher=Murray, London, United Kingdom
        }}}
| isbn=1602061440
  |Date = {{#if:{{{date|}}}|{{{date}}}|{{{day|}}} {{{month|}}} {{{year|{{{publication-date|}}}}}}}}
| oclc=176630493
  |Title={{{title|}}}
}}
  |URL={{{url|}}}
;Citation:{{citation
  |Series={{{series|}}}
| title=On the Origin of Species by Natural Selection
  |Periodical = {{{journal|{{{periodical|{{{newspaper|{{{magazine|}}}}}}}}}}}}
| author=Darwin, C
  |Volume = {{{volume|}}}
| authorlink=Charles Darwin
  |Issue = {{{issue|{{{number|}}}}}}
| year=1859
  |At = {{
| pages=315–316
          #if: {{{journal|{{{periodical|{{{newspaper|{{{magazine|}}}}}}}}}}}}
| publisher=Murray, London, United Kingdom
          |{{{pages|{{{page|{{{at|}}}}}}}}}
| isbn=1602061440
          |{{
| oclc=176630493
            #if: {{{page|}}}
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            |p. {{{page}}}
 
            |{{
;Cite book:{{cite book | title=The Burgess Shale | author=Whittington, H.B. | authorlink=Harry Whittington | coauthors = Geological Survey of Canada | year=1985 | publisher=Yale University Press | isbn=0660119013 | oclc=15630217 }}
                #if: {{{pages|}}}
;Cite book sandbox:>{{cite book/sandbox | title=The Burgess Shale | author=Whittington, H.B. | authorlink=Harry Whittington | coauthors = Geological Survey of Canada | year=1985 | publisher=Yale University Press | isbn=0660119013 | oclc=15630217 }}
                |pp. {{{pages}}}
;Citation:>{{citation | title=The Burgess Shale | author=Whittington, H.B. | authorlink=Harry Whittington | coauthors = Geological Survey of Canada | year=1985 | publisher=Yale University Press | isbn=0660119013 | oclc=15630217 }}
                |{{{at|}}}
 
              }}
 
          }}
 
        }}
;Just a title:
  |IncludedWorkTitle = {{{chapter|{{{contribution|}}}}}}
:<code><nowiki>* {{cite book | title=Mysterious book }}</nowiki></code>
  |IncludedWorkURL = {{{chapter-url|{{{chapterurl|{{{contribution-url|}}}}}}}}}
 
  |Edition = {{{edition|}}}
:*{{cite book | title = Mysterious book }}
  |Place = {{{place|{{{location|}}}}}}
:*{{cite book/sandbox | title = Mysterious book }}
  |PublicationPlace = {{{publication-place|{{{place|{{{location|}}}}}}}}}
 
  |Publisher = {{{publisher|}}}
;Year and title:
  |PublicationDate = {{{publication-date|}}}
:<code><nowiki>* {{cite book | title=Mysterious book | year=1901 }}</nowiki></code>
  |EditorSurname1 = {{{editor-last|{{{editor-surname|{{{editor1-last|{{{editor1-surname|{{{editor|{{{editors|}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
 
  |EditorSurname2 = {{{editor2-last|{{{editor2-surname|}}}}}}
:*{{cite book | title = Mysterious book | year = 1901 }}
  |EditorSurname3 = {{{editor3-last|{{{editor3-surname|}}}}}}
:*{{cite book/sandbox | title = Mysterious book | year = 1901 }}
  |EditorSurname4 = {{{editor4-last|{{{editor4-surname|}}}}}}
 
  |EditorGiven1 = {{{editor-first|{{{editor-given|{{{editor1-first|{{{editor1-given|}}}}}}}}}}}}
;Basic usage:
  |EditorGiven2={{{editor2-first|{{{editor2-given|}}}}}}
:<code><nowiki>* {{cite book | first=Joe | last=Bloggs | authorlink=Joe Bloggs | year=1974 | title=Book of Bloggs }}</nowiki></code>
  |EditorGiven3={{{editor3-first|{{{editor3-given|}}}}}}
 
  |EditorGiven4={{{editor4-first|{{{editor4-given|}}}}}}
:*{{cite book | first=Joe | last=Bloggs | authorlink=Joe Bloggs | year=1974 | title=Book of Bloggs }}
  |Editorlink1={{{editor-link|{{{editor1-link|}}}}}}
:*{{cite book/sandbox | first=Joe | last=Bloggs | authorlink=Joe Bloggs | year=1974 | title=Book of Bloggs }}
  |Editorlink2={{{editor2-link|}}}
 
  |Editorlink3={{{editor3-link|}}}
;Basic usage with url:
  |Editorlink4={{{editor4-link|}}}
:<code><nowiki>* {{cite book | last=Bloggs | first=Joe | authorlink=Joe Bloggs | year=1974 | title=Book of Bloggs | edition=1st Edition | url=http://en.wikipedia.org/ | accessdate=2006-02-17 }}</nowiki></code>
  |language = {{{language|{{{in|}}}}}}
 
  |format = {{{format|}}}
:*{{cite book | last=Bloggs | first=Joe | authorlink=Joe Bloggs | year=1974 | title=Book of Bloggs | edition=1st Edition | url=http://en.wikipedia.org/ | accessdate=2006-02-17 }}
  |ID={{{id|{{{ID|}}}}}}
:*{{cite book/sandbox | last=Bloggs | first=Joe | authorlink=Joe Bloggs | year=1974 | title=Book of Bloggs | edition=1st Edition | url=http://en.wikipedia.org/ | accessdate=2006-02-17 }}
  |ISBN={{{isbn|{{{ISBN|}}}}}}
 
  |ISSN={{{issn|{{{ISSN|}}}}}}
;Three authors, title with a piped wikilink, edition
  |OCLC={{{oclc|{{{OCLC|}}}}}}
:<code><nowiki>* {{cite book | last=Bloggs | first=Joe | authorlink=Joe Bloggs | coauthors=John Smith, Jim Smythe | title=[[A Thousand Acres|1000 Acres]] | edition=2nd Edition }}</nowiki></code>
  |PMID={{{pmid|{{{PMID|}}}}}}
 
  |PMC={{{pmc|{{{PMC|}}}}}}
:*{{cite book | last=Bloggs | first=Joe | authorlink=Joe Bloggs | coauthors=John Smith, Jim Smythe | title=[[A Thousand Acres|1000 Acres]] | edition=2nd Edition }}
  |Bibcode={{{bibcode|}}}
:*{{cite book/sandbox | last=Bloggs | first=Joe | authorlink=Joe Bloggs | coauthors=John Smith, Jim Smythe | title=[[A Thousand Acres|1000 Acres]] | edition=2nd Edition }}
  |DOI={{{doi|{{{DOI|}}}}}}
 
  |DoiBroken={{{doi_brokendate|}}}
;Date without day, wikilinked title and publisher, id, pages, location
  |AccessDate={{{access-date|{{{accessdate|}}}}}}
:<code><nowiki>* {{cite book | last=Cordell | first=Bruce R. | coauthors=Jeff Grubb, David Noonan | year=2001 | month=September | title=[[Manual of the Planes]] | publisher=[[Wizards of the Coast]] | location=Timbuktu | isbn=0-7869-1850-8 | pages=pp. 134-137 }}</nowiki></code>
  |laysource = {{{laysource|}}}
 
  |laysummary = {{{laysummary|}}}
:*{{cite book | last=Cordell | first=Bruce R. | coauthors=Jeff Grubb, David Noonan | year=2001 | month=September | title=[[Manual of the Planes]] | publisher=[[Wizards of the Coast]] | location=Timbuktu | isbn=0-7869-1850-8 | pages=pp. 134-137 }}
  |laydate = {{{laydate|}}}
:*{{cite book/sandbox | last=Cordell | first=Bruce R. | coauthors=Jeff Grubb, David Noonan | year=2001 | month=September | title=[[Manual of the Planes]] | publisher=[[Wizards of the Coast]] | location=Timbuktu | isbn=0-7869-1850-8 | pages=pp. 134-137 }}
  |quote = {{{quote|}}}
 
  |Ref={{{ref|}}}
;Date of first edition, other language, illustrator
  |Sep = {{{separator|{{{seperator|.}}}}}}
:<code><nowiki>* {{cite book | last=Bloggs | first=Joe | origyear=1463 | year=1974 | title=Book of Bloggs | edition=1st Edition | others=illustrated by Smith | language=German | url=http://en.wikipedia.org/ | accessdate=2006-02-17 }}</nowiki></code>
  |PS = {{{postscript|.}}}
 
  |msm = {{{use mixture of punctuation marks|}}}
:*{{cite book | last=Bloggs | first=Joe | origyear=1463 | year=1974 | title=Book of Bloggs | edition=1st Edition | others=illustrated by Smith | language=German | url=http://en.wikipedia.org/ | accessdate=2006-02-17 }}
  |amp = {{{use ampersand before last author|}}}
:*{{cite book/sandbox | last=Bloggs | first=Joe | origyear=1463 | year=1974 | title=Book of Bloggs | edition=1st Edition | others=illustrated by Smith | language=German | url=http://en.wikipedia.org/ | accessdate=2006-02-17 }}
}}<noinclude>
 
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;Status: {{doing}}
{{documentation}}
 
</noinclude>
;Using a [[Digital object identifier|DOI]]
:<code><nowiki>*{{cite book
|last=Mumford
|first=David
|authorlink=David Mumford
|year=1999
|title=The Red Book of Varieties and Schemes: Includes the Michigan Lectures (1974) on Curves and Their Jacobians
|edition=2nd ed.
|publisher=[[Springer-Verlag]]
|doi=10.1007/b62130
|isbn=354063293X
}}</nowiki></code>
 
:*{{cite book
|last=Mumford
|first=David
|authorlink=David Mumford
|year=1999
|title=The Red Book of Varieties and Schemes: Includes the Michigan Lectures (1974) on Curves and Their Jacobians
|edition=2nd ed.
|publisher=[[Springer-Verlag]]
|doi=10.1007/b62130
|isbn=354063293X
}}
:*{{cite book/sandbox
|last=Mumford
|first=David
|authorlink=David Mumford
|year=1999
|title=The Red Book of Varieties and Schemes: Includes the Michigan Lectures (1974) on Curves and Their Jacobians
|edition=2nd ed.
|publisher=[[Springer-Verlag]]
|doi=10.1007/b62130
|isbn=354063293X
}}
Bit of a bug here (2nd ed. ed.). --[[User:Salix alba|Salix]] ([[User talk:Salix alba|talk]]): 09:16, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 
==Inconsistent formatting==
'''First''', an example of incorrect formatting of editor reference:
:Here is a citation with the chapter title included:
::{{cite book
|chapterurl=http://books.google.com/books?id=dp84F_odrBQC&pg=PR13&dq=%22Preface+to+the+Third%22+inauthor:Antman&lr=&as_brr=0 |title=The Non-linear Field Theories of Mechanics |author=Clifford Truesdell & Walter Noll |editor= Stuart S. Antman |isbn=3540027793 |publisher=Springer |year=2004 |page=xiii |edition=3rd |format= reprint of 1965 article in ''Encyclopedia of Physics'' |chapter=Preface }}
 
:The editor's name is preceded by ''in''.
 
:If the chapter title is omitted, the treatment of the editor changes:
::{{cite book
|url=http://books.google.com/books?id=dp84F_odrBQC&pg=PR13&dq=%22Preface+to+the+Third%22+inauthor:Antman&lr=&as_brr=0 |title=The Non-linear Field Theories of Mechanics |author=Clifford Truesdell & Walter Noll |editor= Stuart S. Antman |isbn=3540027793 |publisher=Springer |year=2004 |page=xiii |edition=3rd |format= reprint of 1965 article in ''Encyclopedia of Physics''  }}
 
:Now there is a ''double'' period after ''ed'' and the ''in'' has been dropped.
 
:Aside from this inconsistency in format, insertion of the word ''in'' before the editors name is sometimes inappropriate. The word ''in'' makes sense for a collection of works by various authors, edited by an editor. But it does not make sense for a reprinted classic work, such as this example, where the original authors are responsible for the entire work. In this latter case, the reference is not to a chapter among variously sourced chapters, but to a particular topic in a work by the same authors.
 
This issue is remedied by simply using the editor's name followed by ''(editor)'' in all cases.
 
'''Second''', an example of inconsistent linking to url.
:Here is a citation with the chapter title ''Preface'' specified. The url for the book becomes attached to the chapter heading:
::{{cite book
|url=http://books.google.com/books?id=dp84F_odrBQC&pg=PR13&dq=%22Preface+to+the+Third%22+inauthor:Antman&lr=&as_brr=0 |title=The Non-linear Field Theories of Mechanics |author=Clifford Truesdell & Walter Noll |editor= Stuart S. Antman |isbn=3540027793 |publisher=Springer  |year=2004 |page=xiii |edition=3rd |format= reprint of 1965 article in ''Encyclopedia of Physics'' |chapter=Preface }}
:If the chapter title is omitted, the url is attached to the book title instead:
::{{cite book
|url=http://books.google.com/books?id=dp84F_odrBQC&pg=PR13&dq=%22Preface+to+the+Third%22+inauthor:Antman&lr=&as_brr=0 |title=The Non-linear Field Theories of Mechanics |author=Clifford Truesdell & Walter Noll |editor= Stuart S. Antman |isbn=3540027793 |publisher=Springer |year=2004 |page=xiii |edition=3rd |format= reprint of 1965 article in ''Encyclopedia of Physics''  }}
If ''|chapterurl='' is not used, the url should attach by default to the title, and ''not'' to the chapter heading. The option ''|chapterurl='' then becomes a true option, and is not forced upon the writer. [[User:Brews ohare|Brews ohare]] ([[User talk:Brews ohare|talk]]) 15:20, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 14:55, 3 February 2009

This page is for comparing the current Cite Book output with the sandbox version. Editors are invited to add any examples of inconsistency below so they can be addressed, but please keep discussion on Template talk:Cite book where possible.

Some general examples to get started

Original
  • Buckland, W. (1841). Geology and Mineralogy Considered with Reference to Natural Theology. Lea & Blanchard. 
Sandbox
  • Buckland, W. (1841). Geology and Mineralogy Considered with Reference to Natural Theology. Lea & Blanchard. 
Original
Darwin, C (2002) [First published 1859]. On the Origin of Species by Natural Selection. Murray, London, United Kingdom. pp. 315–316. ISBN 1602061440. OCLC 176630493. 
Sandbox
Darwin, C (2002) [First published 1859]. On the Origin of Species by Natural Selection. Murray, London, United Kingdom. pp. 315–316. ISBN 1602061440. OCLC 176630493. 
Citation
Darwin, C (1859), On the Origin of Species by Natural Selection, Murray, London, United Kingdom, pp. 315–316, ISBN 1602061440, OCLC 176630493 
Cite book
Whittington, H.B.; Geological Survey of Canada (1985). The Burgess Shale. Yale University Press. ISBN 0660119013. OCLC 15630217. 
Cite book sandbox
>Whittington, H.B.; Geological Survey of Canada (1985). The Burgess Shale. Yale University Press. ISBN 0660119013. OCLC 15630217. 
Citation
>Whittington, H.B.; Geological Survey of Canada (1985), The Burgess Shale, Yale University Press, ISBN 0660119013, OCLC 15630217 


Just a title
* {{cite book | title=Mysterious book }}
  • Mysterious book. 
  • Mysterious book. 
Year and title
* {{cite book | title=Mysterious book | year=1901 }}
  • Mysterious book. 1901. 
  • Mysterious book. 1901. 
Basic usage
* {{cite book | first=Joe | last=Bloggs | authorlink=Joe Bloggs | year=1974 | title=Book of Bloggs }}
  • Bloggs, Joe (1974). Book of Bloggs. 
  • Bloggs, Joe (1974). Book of Bloggs. 
Basic usage with url
* {{cite book | last=Bloggs | first=Joe | authorlink=Joe Bloggs | year=1974 | title=Book of Bloggs | edition=1st Edition | url=http://en.wikipedia.org/ | accessdate=2006-02-17 }}
Three authors, title with a piped wikilink, edition
* {{cite book | last=Bloggs | first=Joe | authorlink=Joe Bloggs | coauthors=John Smith, Jim Smythe | title=[[A Thousand Acres|1000 Acres]] | edition=2nd Edition }}
  • Bloggs, Joe; John Smith, Jim Smythe. 1000 Acres (2nd Edition ed.). 
  • Bloggs, Joe; John Smith, Jim Smythe. 1000 Acres (2nd Edition ed.). 
Date without day, wikilinked title and publisher, id, pages, location
* {{cite book | last=Cordell | first=Bruce R. | coauthors=Jeff Grubb, David Noonan | year=2001 | month=September | title=[[Manual of the Planes]] | publisher=[[Wizards of the Coast]] | location=Timbuktu | isbn=0-7869-1850-8 | pages=pp. 134-137 }}
  • Cordell, Bruce R.; Jeff Grubb, David Noonan (September 2001). Manual of the Planes. Timbuktu: Wizards of the Coast. pp. pp. 134-137. ISBN 0-7869-1850-8. 
  • Cordell, Bruce R.; Jeff Grubb, David Noonan (September 2001). Manual of the Planes. Timbuktu: Wizards of the Coast. pp. pp. 134-137. ISBN 0-7869-1850-8. 
Date of first edition, other language, illustrator
* {{cite book | last=Bloggs | first=Joe | origyear=1463 | year=1974 | title=Book of Bloggs | edition=1st Edition | others=illustrated by Smith | language=German | url=http://en.wikipedia.org/ | accessdate=2006-02-17 }}
Status
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Using a DOI
*{{cite book |last=Mumford |first=David |authorlink=David Mumford |year=1999 |title=The Red Book of Varieties and Schemes: Includes the Michigan Lectures (1974) on Curves and Their Jacobians |edition=2nd ed. |publisher=[[Springer-Verlag]] |doi=10.1007/b62130 |isbn=354063293X }}
  • Mumford, David (1999). The Red Book of Varieties and Schemes: Includes the Michigan Lectures (1974) on Curves and Their Jacobians (2nd ed. ed.). Springer-Verlag. doi:10.1007/b62130. ISBN 354063293X. 
  • Mumford, David (1999). The Red Book of Varieties and Schemes: Includes the Michigan Lectures (1974) on Curves and Their Jacobians (2nd ed. ed.). Springer-Verlag. doi:10.1007/b62130. ISBN 354063293X. 

Bit of a bug here (2nd ed. ed.). --Salix (talk): 09:16, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Inconsistent formatting

First, an example of incorrect formatting of editor reference:

Here is a citation with the chapter title included:
Clifford Truesdell & Walter Noll (2004). "Preface". in Stuart S. Antman (reprint of 1965 article in Encyclopedia of Physics). The Non-linear Field Theories of Mechanics (3rd ed.). Springer. p. xiii. ISBN 3540027793. 
The editor's name is preceded by in.
If the chapter title is omitted, the treatment of the editor changes:
Clifford Truesdell & Walter Noll (2004). Stuart S. Antman. ed (reprint of 1965 article in Encyclopedia of Physics). The Non-linear Field Theories of Mechanics (3rd ed.). Springer. p. xiii. ISBN 3540027793. http://books.google.com/books?id=dp84F_odrBQC&pg=PR13&dq=%22Preface+to+the+Third%22+inauthor:Antman&lr=&as_brr=0. 
Now there is a double period after ed and the in has been dropped.
Aside from this inconsistency in format, insertion of the word in before the editors name is sometimes inappropriate. The word in makes sense for a collection of works by various authors, edited by an editor. But it does not make sense for a reprinted classic work, such as this example, where the original authors are responsible for the entire work. In this latter case, the reference is not to a chapter among variously sourced chapters, but to a particular topic in a work by the same authors.

This issue is remedied by simply using the editor's name followed by (editor) in all cases.

Second, an example of inconsistent linking to url.

Here is a citation with the chapter title Preface specified. The url for the book becomes attached to the chapter heading:
Clifford Truesdell & Walter Noll (2004). "Preface". in Stuart S. Antman (reprint of 1965 article in Encyclopedia of Physics). The Non-linear Field Theories of Mechanics (3rd ed.). Springer. p. xiii. ISBN 3540027793. http://books.google.com/books?id=dp84F_odrBQC&pg=PR13&dq=%22Preface+to+the+Third%22+inauthor:Antman&lr=&as_brr=0. 
If the chapter title is omitted, the url is attached to the book title instead:
Clifford Truesdell & Walter Noll (2004). Stuart S. Antman. ed (reprint of 1965 article in Encyclopedia of Physics). The Non-linear Field Theories of Mechanics (3rd ed.). Springer. p. xiii. ISBN 3540027793. http://books.google.com/books?id=dp84F_odrBQC&pg=PR13&dq=%22Preface+to+the+Third%22+inauthor:Antman&lr=&as_brr=0. 

If |chapterurl= is not used, the url should attach by default to the title, and not to the chapter heading. The option |chapterurl= then becomes a true option, and is not forced upon the writer. Brews ohare (talk) 15:20, 8 December 2008 (UTC)